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	<title>Comments on: Hangzhou subway tunnel collapse: problems discovered a month ago</title>
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	<description>ponderings of a pococurante</description>
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		<title>By: SNR</title>
		<link>http://peijinchen.com/blog/2008/11/17/hangzhou-subway-tunnel-collapse-problems-discovered-a-month-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-4214</link>
		<dc:creator>SNR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your idea of a greater good makes no sense. What greater good would mean people don&#039;t care about others dying? I don&#039;t see how producing shoddy construction has anything to do with the greater good. It&#039;s simply greed and corruption. Also the great wall was built from slave and forced labour, no one volunteered to make the wall for the greater good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your idea of a greater good makes no sense. What greater good would mean people don&#8217;t care about others dying? I don&#8217;t see how producing shoddy construction has anything to do with the greater good. It&#8217;s simply greed and corruption. Also the great wall was built from slave and forced labour, no one volunteered to make the wall for the greater good.</p>
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		<title>By: YB</title>
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		<dc:creator>YB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. But that&#039;s just not the prevailing view in China, a formerly (officially still) communist State, collectivist society, with centuries, if not MILLENIA of history pointing to &quot;greater good&quot; always being more valuable to any individual number of human lives (construction of the Great Wall comes to mind ?). 

It&#039;s terrible... but is it new ?  and can it be changed? And do they want it to be changed... Maybe you, and me, as foreigners... shouldn&#039;t be bearing the moral burden of the way the chinese society works... ?  Not saying we shouldn&#039;t care anymore... but, if the very people at the heart of the matter, themselves, don&#039;t care... just how much power do we have left ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. But that&#8217;s just not the prevailing view in China, a formerly (officially still) communist State, collectivist society, with centuries, if not MILLENIA of history pointing to &#8220;greater good&#8221; always being more valuable to any individual number of human lives (construction of the Great Wall comes to mind ?). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s terrible&#8230; but is it new ?  and can it be changed? And do they want it to be changed&#8230; Maybe you, and me, as foreigners&#8230; shouldn&#8217;t be bearing the moral burden of the way the chinese society works&#8230; ?  Not saying we shouldn&#8217;t care anymore&#8230; but, if the very people at the heart of the matter, themselves, don&#8217;t care&#8230; just how much power do we have left ?</p>
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		<title>By: April Fong</title>
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		<dc:creator>April Fong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Beichuan schools, and now this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Beichuan schools, and now this.</p>
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