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Some interesting statements during the court proceedings:

 杨佳当庭直言:我是无罪的,是他们违法,有罪的是他们。(指警察,发人深思啊)
[Yang Jia: I am innocent, is they who are guilty of breaking the law.]

 法官问:你有什么补充意见?杨佳说:“这些警察之所以敢这样,都是因为他们的背后有你们”。
[Judge asks: do you have any thing to add to your statement? Yang Jia: "the reason the police dare to act the way they do is because
you guys stand behind them."]

 法庭最后陈述,杨佳说:“被这样的警察管理着的国家,一个遵纪守法二十几年的公民最后都会被判刑坐牢。” (说出了绝大多数民众的心里话)

杨佳最著名语录:你不给我一个说法,我就给你一个说法。

[Closing statement. Yang Jia says: "a country run by policemen such as this will force someone who has been law-abiding for twenty some years to end up going to jail." The blogger says: (these are the true feelings of the overwhelming majority of people).

Yang Jia's most famous quote: If you don't give me an explanation, I will give you one.]

Elsewhere, citizen blogger and journalist Zola reposts a general letter calling for amnesty for Yang. The letter states a few reasons for this, beginning with some general reasons (the world is generally moving away from capital punishment, even some war criminals were pardoned in China) and then moving to some specific issues relating to how the case was handled (judicial mishandling, interference). Zola states what most others have said about this case: that the tragedy of Yang is that he was an ordinary fellow that was driven to homicidal rage by the pigs. Left with no legal recourse, stymied by a system that was patently designed to thwart demands like his, he had no other choice but to exact his revenge in blood. This open letter was signed by the following people:

中华人民共和国公民:(按签名顺序排,第一批签名人员名单)

艾未未(北京艺术家)、茅于轼(北京经济学家)、杜光(北京离休人员)、于浩成(北京法学家)、戴晴(北京学者)、张祖桦(北京学者)、王俊秀(北京学者)、古川(北京编辑)、陈永苗(北京律师)、李苏滨(北京律师)、江天勇(北京律师)、黎雄兵(北京律师)、唐吉田(北京律师)、杨凤春(北京学者)、王治晶(北京自由撰稿人)、夏业良(北京学者)、冉云飞(四川编辑)、廖亦武(四川作家)、张博树(北京法学家)、萧默(北京学者)、刘序盾(北京学者)、李智英(北京学者)、李槟(南京教师)、孙岩力(北京教师)、王卫星(北京记者)、谭洪安(北京编辑)、于赤阳(黑龙江公民)、张辉(山西民主人士)、贾瑞明(河北农民)、谢军(深圳设计)、王靖禹(旅英学者)、华乔(上海摄影师)、释妙觉慈智(广东法师)、林树坤(瑞士出版人)、范冲(北京学生)、张志强(北京打工之友)、李勉之(深圳工程师)、曹王澜(广东民工)、张赞宁(江苏教师)、龚光云(广东学者)、郭玉闪(北京学者)、周曙光(楚国人)、淮生(北京自由职业者)、马萧(北京记者)

2008年10月20日

YOu can see that Ai Weiwei (Mr. I hate my bird nest and the fake Olympics) among many other scholars, writers, and intellectuals from around the country. There was only one person from Shanghai that signed it, and that was photographer Hua Qiao.

The story has gathered some steam and AFP and a bunch of other western media sources are running this story, noting that there were protests in Shanghai outside the courtroom where Yang’s trial was held:

Huang Xuemin, a grey-haired protester, complained police beat her when she tried to enter the court premises.

“You see how police were treating us, and you could imagine how badly Yang Jia must be treated,” she said, showing the assembled crowd scratches on her forearms that she said were from her scuffle with police.

Obviously, this is only the tip of the iceberg, and there are vast amounts of debates going on online … personally, I just want to know the truth about what happened to the guy. I want there to be an investigation into whether or not he was mistreated by the police. I think that’s what most of his supporters want. As to whether or not he should die–well, he did kill a lot of people, and I don’t think there is any justification even if you were insulted or beaten or otherwise felt your dignity to have suffered as a results of other people’s actions. That said, I am *almost* categorically against the death penalty, because I feel uneasy with the idea of the state arrogating to itself to mete out this kind of brutal punishment.

Oh well. Yang Jia will face the firing squad, a dead chicken for all the rebellious monkeys lurking in the underbelly of Chinese society. And for those that support or otherwise sympathize for Yang, that will just prove what they’ve been saying all along.

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What’s interesting about this is that their land was taken and used for a police sub-station (pai chu suo), but that was not something recent, but rather happened way back in 1974. They felt they were shafted then, and kept apply for some kind of hearing on the matter of this land but to no avail. On June 6, 2008 the government rejected another appeal from Lin Hongqi, one of the elderly protesters, saying that her papers and materials were not acceptable. By law there is a 60 day period in which the applicant can appeal for a second hearing. However, before the 60 days was even close to being up, the gov’t decided to unequivocally give the land-use rights to the police, who planned on constructing a larger building on the same site. Driven to desperation these elderly protesters felt they had nothing left to lose, and so lay down on the ground as a form of protest.

据一位其称为土地产权所有人之一的林树芬亲属林鸿祺介绍,他们全家几辈已在海口市博爱南横路12号居住了60多年。该宅地为祖上林天就于1948年8月置下并具有当时合法的土地所有权证。解放后该宅地也没有被政府没收或征用,土地所有权一直由其家所拥有。1957年3月26、27和28日,林家曾连续3天在《新海南日报》刊登海口市民政局公告,重新确定了土地所有权。1974年8月16日海口市公安局博爱派出所(原为海口市红坎坡派出所)在未与林家及其他拥有该地土地合法产权人办理任何手续、也未作任何补偿的情况下,强行拆除该地上的草房和基础庭院,建起了派出所办公用房(即海口市公安局博爱派出所所在地)。多年来,林树芬等人多次口头和书面向省市有关部门反映申诉土地所有权的问题,一直未能解决。

…can be a bitch if you haven’t done it already. Here’s what I found in the course of my search. If you can’t read Chinese or cannot find someone who can, this isn’t going to be of much use to you. But here goes.

First, here’s a page that lists all the major PSB and police sub-stations in Shanghai, by district. When you want to know how to find the place consult either mapbar.com or Google CN’s business results from the main search engine or maps search engine.

Now if you want to get a temporary residence permit for the purposes of obtaining or renewing a visa, you have to find the one has jurisdiction over where you live and also handles “hu ji” or residence related issues. The problem here is that if you dial the main number, the police person might not know how to answer your visa related questions. That’s why it’s better to transfer or call directly someone involved in that area, they can give you a better answer.

If you live in Xuhui, for example, this page shows you the addresses and phone numbers, but ALSO what kind of stuff the station handles, eg criminal cases, residence issues, etc.

However, the phone number of the residence department of my local station was not listed, so I had to still call the general number and then have them transfer me.

And of course, they don’t process anything during lunch hours.